What was the 40-45 foot flying tic-tac with a “cloaking device” that was able to hover in place and take off at the speed of a ballistic missile captured on military radar and visually spotted during training exercises over a six-day period in November 2004 off the coast of southern California and Mexico?
UFO stalked a US aircraft carrier off the coast of California for days before possibly using a cloaking device to disappear, according to a leaked Pentagon report.
The report, published by Las Vegas news station KLAS, reveals new details of the November 2004 encounter including first hand reports from shocked US Navy personnel.
A video of the strange object, shaped like a Tic Tac mint, emerged last December.
And the report reveals further details of how the UFO was repeatedly spotted during training exercises over a six-day period off the coast of southern California and Mexico.
It was initially seen on radar by the crew of the USS Princeton on November 10, who referred to it in the report as an Anomalous Aerial Vehicle (AAV).
Leaked in 2017 along with the news of the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program, was a video that revealed an encounter between an F/A-18 Super Hornet and an unidentified flying vehicle. Seen along the East Coast on a Raytheon Advanced Targeting Forward-Looking Infrared (ATFLIR) Pod, the craft was similar to that spotted off San Diego in 2004: It was a fast-moving white oval about 45-feet-long without wings or exhaust plume. The pilots tracked the object at 25,000 feet above the Atlantic Ocean as it flew away and simultaneously rotated on its axis. Whether the vehicle was a product of another country’s technology or alien airship remains a mystery.
The key points in the military assessment are amazing:
This last video has some interesting facts, but I dislike the way it dumbs it down. The idea seems to be to allay fears of people who aren’t already aware of UFOs as real phenomena. There are documented unidentified flying objects with thousands of credible witnesses. I guess the same people who needed thr “flares” theory about the Phoenix lights would have their minds blown by this and they need this kind of “don’t worry kids, Scientists are not concerned” talk to avoid a mental melt down.
Retired Cmdr. David Fravor spent 18 years as a Navy pilot, but nothing prepared him for what he witnessed during a routine training mission on Nov. 14, 2004.
“I can tell you, I think it was not from this world,” Fravor told ABC News. “I’m not crazy, haven’t been drinking. It was — after 18 years of flying, I’ve seen pretty much about everything that I can see in that realm, and this was nothing close.”
Fravor’s stunning retelling of his encounter off the California coast with what appeared to be a 40-foot-long wingless object that flew at incredible speeds in an erratic pattern comes as the Pentagon revealed the existence of a secret program to investigate sightings of UFOs.
The program was shut down in 2012 because of other budget priorities, according to the Pentagon.
“I have never seen anything in my life, in my history of flying that has the performance, the acceleration — keep in mind this thing had no wings,” Fravor said.
He recalled flying his F/A-18 fighter on a training mission on a beautiful Southern California day 13 years ago when things started to get strange.
Controllers on one of the Navy ships on the water below reported objects that were dropping out of the sky from 80,000 feet and going “straight back up,” Fravor said.
… “We look down, we see a white disturbance in the water, like something’s under the surface, and the waves are breaking over, but we see next to it, and it’s flying around, and it’s this little white Tic Tac, and it’s moving around — left, right, forward, back, just random,” he said.
The object didn’t display the rotor wash typical of a helicopter or jet wash from a plane, he said.
The planes flew lower to investigate the object, which started to mirror their movements before disappearing, Fravor said. “As we start to cut across, it rapidly accelerates, climbs past our altitude and disappears,” Fravor recalled.
“When it started to near us, as we started to descend towards it coming up, it was flying in the elongated way, so it’s [like] a Tic Tac, with the roundish end going in the forward direction … I don’t know what it is. I don’t know what I saw. I just know it was really impressive, really fast, and I would like to fly it,” he said.
The disturbance in the water also vanished with object, he remembered.
“So we turned around — we couldn’t have been more than about a couple miles away — and there’s no white water at all in the ocean,” Fravor said. “It’s just blue.”
At that point, they decided to return to complete the training exercise when they were told the object or something similar reappeared.
“And the controller comes up and says, ‘Sir, you’re not going to believe this. That thing is at your half point,’ which is our hold point,” Fravor added. “And I’m like, ‘Oh, great.'”
Another plane that launched from the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz around the same time had its radar jammed and was able to pick up the object on an infrared channel.
“He gets close enough to see a couple of objects come out of the bottom, and then all of a sudden it takes off and goes right off the side of the screen and, like, takes off,” Fravor said.
He recalled that the speed of the object, which he said had no exhaust trail in infrared scanning, was stunning.
“No aircraft that we know of can fly at those speeds, maneuver like that and looks like that,” ABC News contributor and former Marine Col. Stephen Ganyard said.
Fravor said there is no rational explanation for what they saw that day.
“I don’t know if it was alien life, but I will say that in an infinite universe, with multiple galaxies that we know of, that if we’re the only planet with life, it’s a pretty lonely universe.”
There was no further investigation into the incident, he said.
“You know, you see a lot of interesting things,” Fravor said. “But to show up on something that’s a 40-foot-long white Tic Tac with no wings that can move, really, in any random direction that it wants and go from hovering over the ocean to mirroring us to accelerating to the point where it just disappears — like, poof, then it was gone.”
The Tic Tac May have been attempting to rendezvous with a giant underwater ship up to the size of a football field.
Pilots indicated there may have been something in the water as well. One pilot detailed a disturbance up to the size of a football field:
“The disturbance appeared to be 50 to 100 meters in diameter and close to round. It was the only area and type of whitewater activity that could be seen and reminded him of images of something rapidly submerging from the surface like a submarine or a ship sinking.”
The disturbed area also resembled shoal water around “a barely submerged reef or island,” but as the pilot flew away, he could see that the disturbance had cleared and seas calmed. Although he never made visual contact with whatever caused the disturbance, the report stated that it may have been caused by an AAV, which was unseen due to cloaking “or invisible to the human eye.”
Here are a few options I can imagine:
- Whole video is a fake
- False blips inserted into radar with technology, like a hack. (Requires reports of visual contact to be false)
- Holographic technology (requires “waves made in the ocean” report to be false)
- An unknown craft of a foreign government.
- Some super secret compartmentalized US project.
- The toy of some billionaire.
This one will be interesting to watch, perhaps more details will surface.
UPDATE: The video has been called into question as a fake for several reasons:
1. One pilot says, “there’s a whole fleet of them look on my SA”. One pilot would not look at another pilot’s scanned array. They each have their own.
The fleet can expect dramatic changes in radar operation with the introduction of the I APG-79 Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA), a wide band electronically scanned array radar for the F/A-18E/F “Super Hornet.”
It sounds clearly like “My SA” or “IESA” to me but he should be saying “AESA”.
2. There should be no sound of wind rushing in a real recording of pilot communication as oxygen facemasks seal tightly against their faces and the mic is inside the sealed mask, there is no sound of wind.
3. The language used by the pilots was not pilot language. Pilots do not use the words “bro” and “dude” in communications.
4. They would not have described the wind as they did. There would be no reason at all for them to even talk about the wind while tracking an object. They would not be tracking any object in a fighter in the first place if it was just floating with the wind. If they did say anything about it, they would not say (“The wind is 120 knots to the west,”) as wind is never described by pilots as going somewhere, it is described as coming from a compass direction (“Wind 120 from 130”). The word knots is also left out as understood, they are pilots.
5. The F18 can go close to Mach 2 so why are they only flying at 238 to 242 knots according to the heads up display (HUD)?
A common speed limit encountered by all aeroplanes is the restriction to fly at 250 knots (288mph) or less when under an altitude of 10,000 feet, which falls into the Class B airspace level. – via DailyMail
The F/A-18 has a top speed of Mach 1.8 which is 1,034 knots or 1,190 mph at 40,000 ft according to Wikipedia.
Three red flags should have been raised about the recent video described in the New York Times. On day one the Defense Department denied it. Within minutes of its release the UFO man at the CIA yelled hoax. This video is an interview with the famous aviator John Lear as he described the problems with the video itself and why he thinks it may have been hoaxed.
6. Even if they are going that slowly for some reason, why isn’t the object getting bigger in the display? They should be closing on it.
John Lear in this interview says this faked tic tac UFO video was created for political reasons with financial motives and he names names.