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Are we in the Year 1722 Instead of 2019? No Charlemagne?

The strangest item for today is this: a claim that 297 years of human history were faked to make some historical powerful people more powerful. The phantom time hypothesis says that the years AD 614–911 were invented with document forgeries during a change of calendars.

… the entire Carolingian period, including the figure of Charlemagne, is a fabrication …

As the Steely Dan song says, “Get along kid Charlemagne.” Okay, that song has nothing to do with this odd theory, but it started playing in my mind as I considered the name Charlemagne. Wikipedia has quite a long page on this guy. He lived from April 2, 742 to January 28, 814, within the time range that may have never existed.

Could he be a made up character?

If that were the case, his children could not exist. It would mean there was no Pepin the Hunchback, and no Carloman, made king of Italy, no Louis the Pious (778 – 20 June 840) King of the Franks and King of Aquitaine. If Louis the Pious was invented, so were his sons and daughters. Two of them were kings, Lothair (795–855), king of Middle Francia and Pepin (797–838), king of Aquitaine, If there was no Lothair I, then he could not have had his son Louis II (825–875) called “the Younger” crowned as King of Italy in 844 and Crowned Holy Roman Emperor in 850. If there was no Louis II, his daughter could not have existed, Ermengard of Italy, who could have never had her son, Louis the Blind (c. 880 – 5 June 928) who was the king of Provence, and he could have never had his son,  Charles-Constantine, who became Count of Vienne … I think you see my point. That’s a lot of work to invent and what about people living after the year 911 AD who were descended from people living in the supposedly invented time period?

Nevertheless, based on the study of many historical documents, a German historian, Heribert Illig, concluded that a period of 297 years from the 8th to the 11th centuries contains too many inconsistent and vague events, as if they were simply made up.

There are irrefutable documents indicating the loss of three centuries. … the grandiose construction in Constantinople of that period was for some reason abruptly suspended … for three centuries and then suddenly resumed.

Exactly the same absurdity can be traced when building the Aachen Cathedral in Germany. 

… The phantom time hypothesis is a theory asserted by Heribert Illig and first published in 1991. It hypothesizes a conspiracy by the Holy Roman Emperor Otto III, Pope Sylvester II, and possibly the Byzantine Emperor Constantine VII, to fabricate the Anno Domini dating system retrospectively, in order to place them at the special year of AD 1000, and to rewrite history to legitimize Otto’s claim to the Holy Roman Empire.

Heribert Illig believed that this was achieved through the alteration, misrepresentation and forgery of documentary and physical evidence. According to this scenario, the entire Carolingian period, including the figure of Charlemagne, is a fabrication, with a “phantom time” of 297 years (AD 614–911) added to the Early Middle Ages.

So it is quite possible that we live in 1722, and not in 2019.

Via Anomoalien

According to this scenario, the entire Carolingian period, including the figure of Charlemagne, is a fabrication, with a “phantom time” of 297 years (AD 614–911) added to the Early Middle Ages. The proposal has been universally rejected by mainstream historians.

Via Wikipedia

Countering the “missing chunk of history” theory, critics say well documented ancient astronomical events would be hard to reconcile if 297 years were fabricated. We know when eclipses occurred before the supposed fake time and we know when they happened after and there does not appear to be a break in the record. The same with observations of Halley’s Comet, the Wikipedia entry on phantom time states.

The most difficult challenge to the theory is through observations in ancient astronomy, especially those of solar eclipses cited by European sources prior to 600 AD (when phantom time would have distorted the chronology). Besides several others that are perhaps too vague to disprove the phantom time hypothesis, two in particular are dated with enough precision to disprove the hypothesis with a high degree of certainty. One is reported by Pliny the Elder in 59 AD[9] and one by Photius in 418 AD. Both of these dates and times have confirmed eclipses. In addition, observations during the Tang dynasty in China, and Halley’s Comet, for example, are consistent with current astronomy with no “phantom time” added.

Read more Wikipedia

Having now heard the theory of phantom time, we can keep watch for inconsistencies that weigh in favor or against there being 297 years that never really happened.

At this time I favor the conservative view that this chunk of history was not invented, but it’s an awesome strange claim and I enjoyed considering it.

What do you think?

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Discussion

5 thoughts on “Are we in the Year 1722 Instead of 2019? No Charlemagne?

  1. If there was such ‘historical ‘ messing it would have been with numbers, not actual events.

    Posted by Sha'Tara | 22 May 2019, 7:41 am
    • That makes much more sense. As with our daylight savings time, or leap years, they may have just decided to call the year something else at some point… and if the actual date was only known by the church, a few people might scratch their heads and gossip over the fact that last year it was 297 years earlier, but otherwise… but even that should result in some 300+ year old people, on paper and in birth – death records. I don’t know, perhaps back then they didn’t put the years someone lived on gravestones. I’ll check that.

      Posted by Xeno | 22 May 2019, 7:58 am
  2. wow, it blows the mind when thinking on it, but yes, there is something not right when you investigate into this theory. argh, I need coffee now.

    Posted by Adele Marie | 22 May 2019, 9:35 am
  3. You’ve really dug up a weird one this time. Never heard of this. Like Adele, I get a headache just trying to get my head around this one. And keep coming back to WHY would they do that ?!

    Posted by Soul Gifts | 22 May 2019, 7:20 pm
    • I guess big numbers get a lot of hype. Like Y2K and the upcoming 2020, the year 1000 was a big deal and they decided not to wait for it. The idea is that by faking a history, Otto, was able to establish the Ottoman Empire. Pretty hard to believe, but a very interesting strange claim.

      Posted by Xeno | 22 May 2019, 7:24 pm

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